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		<title>Update on OSU Email</title>
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Kyle Tolle reading &#8216;Update on OSU Email&#8217;
What Happened
Last night I wrote the post &#8220;Forwarding BuckeyeMail&#8221; and tweeted it to 8Help, OSU&#8217;s IT service desk.  In just a few short hours, I got a tweet from 8Help, a comment from Chuck, and a detailed email from 8Help, which is included at the bottom [...]]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://blog.kyletolle.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/kyle-tolle-update-on-osu-email.mp3">Kyle Tolle reading &#8216;Update on OSU Email&#8217;</a></p>
<h2>What Happened</h2>
<p>Last night I wrote the post &#8220;<a href="http://blog.kyletolle.com/forwarding-buckeyemail/" target="_blank">Forwarding BuckeyeMail</a>&#8221; and tweeted it to <a href="http://twitter.com/8help" target="_blank">8Help</a>, <a href="http://8help.osu.edu/" target="_blank">OSU&#8217;s IT service desk</a>.  In just a few short hours, I got a <a href="http://twitter.com/8help/status/1846135117" target="_blank">tweet</a> from 8Help, a <a href="http://blog.kyletolle.com/forwarding-buckeyemail/#comment-542" target="_blank">comment</a> from <a href="http://twitter.com/chuckinator" target="_blank">Chuck</a>, and a detailed email from 8Help, which is included at the bottom of this post.</p>
<p>From the email, we see there is actually an <a href="http://8help.osu.edu/4093.html" target="_blank">article about forwarding BuckeyeMail</a>, but it&#8217;s not listed on the main <a href="http://8help.osu.edu/3952.html" target="_blank">FAQs</a>. Instead, it&#8217;s listed on a page of a huge number of <a href="http://8help.osu.edu/cat_email.html" target="_blank">other articles</a>, which is why I missed it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a bit confused because they say BuckeyeMail isn&#8217;t required, but if they&#8217;re getting rid of WebMail, what other choice do you have? I guess it&#8217;s not required in the same sense that WebMail isn&#8217;t required: You can forward your email to another account, so you don&#8217;t <em>have</em> to use it?</p>
<h2>What I Learned</h2>
<p>From the feedback, I&#8217;ve gathered some insight on this whole process.</p>
<ul>
<li>OSU still uses your name.##@osu.edu address for all mailings. Whew!</li>
<li>Setting up BuckeyeMail changes your osu.edu email redirect policy, and forwards all @osu.edu mail to @buckeyemail.osu.edu automatically. I really wish they would have an option to keep this from happening when you&#8217;re actually setting up BuckeyeMail, or at least a more apparent notification that this user-given value will be overwritten.</li>
<li>Forwarding BuckeyeMail isn&#8217;t as clean a process as I thought it was.</li>
<li>There&#8217;s still hope, because we can avoid most of that mess by just changing where our @osu.edu address forwards.</li>
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<h2>What To Do Now</h2>
<p>So here&#8217;s a list of new steps to take:</p>
<ol>
<li>Again, <a href="http://8help.osu.edu/3172.html" target="_blank">forward @osu.edu email</a> to another account of your choice. This re-establishes the  forwarding you may have had before. It bypasses the BuckeyeMail system all together.</li>
<li>Since there is a chance someone <em>could</em> decide to email your BuckeyeMail address, there&#8217;re a few options.
<ul>
<li><a href="http://8help.osu.edu/4070.html" target="_blank">Have Gmail check your BuckeyeMail</a>. Since there won&#8217;t be much mail going here, it&#8217;s okay that Gmail only checks once an hour.</li>
<li>Set up an autoresponder in BuckeyeMail to tell the sender you&#8217;re not using that address. This feature only works in IE though, which is stupid. (I hate MS and their IE only garbage. It doesn&#8217;t even &#8220;degredate&#8221; to other browsers. It just doesn&#8217;t work.)</li>
<li><a href="http://8help.osu.edu/4093.html" target="_blank">Send your BuckeyeMail to another account</a>. There are a number of caveats with this method that I didn&#8217;t know before:
<ol>
<li>Forwarded email is sent as a &#8220;Fwd:&#8221; from your BuckeyeMail account instead of transparently passed along, as I&#8217;ve come to expect Forwarding to mean. This archaic &#8220;Forwarding&#8221; is automating you opening up the email, hitting Forward and typing in the other address &#8211; so it comes from your @buckeyemail.osu.edu account. Addresses from the original email are in the body of the email, but it kills the work flow of just hitting reply, since it&#8217;s sent from your buckeyemail.</li>
<li>Redirected mail completely kills the email headers, so you can&#8217;t tell if it was sent to anyone other than yourself. Not sure why this would even be useful since it modifies the original message by killing the headers.</li>
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<h2>Why I Screwed Up</h2>
<p>I thought forwarding from BuckeyeMail was a transparent process, because before I set up the inbox rule I had resubmitted the @osu.edu forwarding form, and then tried sending test emails to my @osu.edu address.  I thought this form was obsolete, however, meaning I thought all OSU mail went to BuckeyeMail regardless. Since this isn&#8217;t so, the test emails never actually reached the BuckeyeMail servers, so I didn&#8217;t see the wonky forwarding setup there.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the email I got from 8Help. Very detailed and concise &#8211; These guys rock!</p>
<h2>The Email from 8Help</h2>
<blockquote><p>Kyle,</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing your blog post with instructions on forwarding Buckeye Mail.  We have a similar article we&#8217;ve had available for just under two weeks at  http://8help.osu.edu/4093.html that goes into a little more depth and includes some warnings.</p>
<p>Just to clarify &#8211; students are not required to use Buckeye Mail &#8211; all official university communications should be going to your tollename.##@osu.edu address for you to read, and from there forwarding to @gmail.com.</p>
<p>If someone (another student, perhaps, or someone you e-mailed from Buckeye Mail hitting reply, etc.)  &#8220;guesses&#8221; and tries to mail you directly at tolle.23@buckeyemail.osu.edu, however, that wouldn&#8217;t be forwarded using that process.  There are a couple options for taking care of messages that might be missed due to this.</p>
<p>One is setting up Gmail to POP your messages from Buckeye Mail, per http://8help.osu.edu/4070.html</p>
<p>Another is to set up an Automatic Reply in Buckeye Mail basically saying &#8220;I don&#8217;t use this address, make sure to mail me at name.##@osu.edu (or even Gmail directly if you prefer).</p>
<p>Another is to setup Inbox Rules that automatically forward or redirect all incoming mail to another address, per http://8help.osu.edu/4093.html</p>
<p>The warnings for this are spelled out in the article &#8211; but because of your blog post, I just want to make sure you&#8217;re aware that messages *forwarded* int his manner will appear &#8220;From&#8221; your Buckeye Mail address &#8211; NOT the original sender, so you won&#8217;t be able to just hit  This option behaves just like hitting forward on a message from an e-mail client.  The Subject is also appended with &#8220;FW: &#8221;</p>
<p>If you choose to Redirect instead of Forward, there are other issues &#8211; the original sender and subject are preserved, so that you can hit reply and have it go back to the sender &#8230; BUT&#8230; if there were other recipients on the message (other To or Cc addresses), those are NOT preserved &#8211; so hitting reply-all would only reach the original sender &#8211; you won&#8217;t be aware of other people who may have been a part of the conversation.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a lot to digest, so hopefully it all makes sense &#8211; let me know if you have any questions.</p>
<p>&#8211;<br />
Max Treboni<br />
IT Service Desk, OSU Office of Information Technology<br />
Request forms and knowledge base articles are available on the web at http://8help.osu.edu<br />
Service hours are available on the web at http://8help.osu.edu/1691.html</p></blockquote>
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