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		<title>Update on OSU Email</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 22:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kyle Tolle</dc:creator>
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Kyle Tolle reading &#8216;Update on OSU Email&#8217;
What Happened
Last night I wrote the post &#8220;Forwarding BuckeyeMail&#8221; and tweeted it to 8Help, OSU&#8217;s IT service desk.  In just a few short hours, I got a tweet from 8Help, a comment from Chuck, and a detailed email from 8Help, which is included at the bottom [...]]]></description>
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<h2>What Happened</h2>
<p>Last night I wrote the post &#8220;<a href="http://blog.kyletolle.com/forwarding-buckeyemail/" target="_blank">Forwarding BuckeyeMail</a>&#8221; and tweeted it to <a href="http://twitter.com/8help" target="_blank">8Help</a>, <a href="http://8help.osu.edu/" target="_blank">OSU&#8217;s IT service desk</a>.  In just a few short hours, I got a <a href="http://twitter.com/8help/status/1846135117" target="_blank">tweet</a> from 8Help, a <a href="http://blog.kyletolle.com/forwarding-buckeyemail/#comment-542" target="_blank">comment</a> from <a href="http://twitter.com/chuckinator" target="_blank">Chuck</a>, and a detailed email from 8Help, which is included at the bottom of this post.</p>
<p>From the email, we see there is actually an <a href="http://8help.osu.edu/4093.html" target="_blank">article about forwarding BuckeyeMail</a>, but it&#8217;s not listed on the main <a href="http://8help.osu.edu/3952.html" target="_blank">FAQs</a>. Instead, it&#8217;s listed on a page of a huge number of <a href="http://8help.osu.edu/cat_email.html" target="_blank">other articles</a>, which is why I missed it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a bit confused because they say BuckeyeMail isn&#8217;t required, but if they&#8217;re getting rid of WebMail, what other choice do you have? I guess it&#8217;s not required in the same sense that WebMail isn&#8217;t required: You can forward your email to another account, so you don&#8217;t <em>have</em> to use it?</p>
<h2>What I Learned</h2>
<p>From the feedback, I&#8217;ve gathered some insight on this whole process.</p>
<ul>
<li>OSU still uses your name.##@osu.edu address for all mailings. Whew!</li>
<li>Setting up BuckeyeMail changes your osu.edu email redirect policy, and forwards all @osu.edu mail to @buckeyemail.osu.edu automatically. I really wish they would have an option to keep this from happening when you&#8217;re actually setting up BuckeyeMail, or at least a more apparent notification that this user-given value will be overwritten.</li>
<li>Forwarding BuckeyeMail isn&#8217;t as clean a process as I thought it was.</li>
<li>There&#8217;s still hope, because we can avoid most of that mess by just changing where our @osu.edu address forwards.</li>
</ul>
<h2>What To Do Now</h2>
<p>So here&#8217;s a list of new steps to take:</p>
<ol>
<li>Again, <a href="http://8help.osu.edu/3172.html" target="_blank">forward @osu.edu email</a> to another account of your choice. This re-establishes the  forwarding you may have had before. It bypasses the BuckeyeMail system all together.</li>
<li>Since there is a chance someone <em>could</em> decide to email your BuckeyeMail address, there&#8217;re a few options.
<ul>
<li><a href="http://8help.osu.edu/4070.html" target="_blank">Have Gmail check your BuckeyeMail</a>. Since there won&#8217;t be much mail going here, it&#8217;s okay that Gmail only checks once an hour.</li>
<li>Set up an autoresponder in BuckeyeMail to tell the sender you&#8217;re not using that address. This feature only works in IE though, which is stupid. (I hate MS and their IE only garbage. It doesn&#8217;t even &#8220;degredate&#8221; to other browsers. It just doesn&#8217;t work.)</li>
<li><a href="http://8help.osu.edu/4093.html" target="_blank">Send your BuckeyeMail to another account</a>. There are a number of caveats with this method that I didn&#8217;t know before:
<ol>
<li>Forwarded email is sent as a &#8220;Fwd:&#8221; from your BuckeyeMail account instead of transparently passed along, as I&#8217;ve come to expect Forwarding to mean. This archaic &#8220;Forwarding&#8221; is automating you opening up the email, hitting Forward and typing in the other address &#8211; so it comes from your @buckeyemail.osu.edu account. Addresses from the original email are in the body of the email, but it kills the work flow of just hitting reply, since it&#8217;s sent from your buckeyemail.</li>
<li>Redirected mail completely kills the email headers, so you can&#8217;t tell if it was sent to anyone other than yourself. Not sure why this would even be useful since it modifies the original message by killing the headers.</li>
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<h2>Why I Screwed Up</h2>
<p>I thought forwarding from BuckeyeMail was a transparent process, because before I set up the inbox rule I had resubmitted the @osu.edu forwarding form, and then tried sending test emails to my @osu.edu address.  I thought this form was obsolete, however, meaning I thought all OSU mail went to BuckeyeMail regardless. Since this isn&#8217;t so, the test emails never actually reached the BuckeyeMail servers, so I didn&#8217;t see the wonky forwarding setup there.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the email I got from 8Help. Very detailed and concise &#8211; These guys rock!</p>
<h2>The Email from 8Help</h2>
<blockquote><p>Kyle,</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing your blog post with instructions on forwarding Buckeye Mail.  We have a similar article we&#8217;ve had available for just under two weeks at  http://8help.osu.edu/4093.html that goes into a little more depth and includes some warnings.</p>
<p>Just to clarify &#8211; students are not required to use Buckeye Mail &#8211; all official university communications should be going to your tollename.##@osu.edu address for you to read, and from there forwarding to @gmail.com.</p>
<p>If someone (another student, perhaps, or someone you e-mailed from Buckeye Mail hitting reply, etc.)  &#8220;guesses&#8221; and tries to mail you directly at tolle.23@buckeyemail.osu.edu, however, that wouldn&#8217;t be forwarded using that process.  There are a couple options for taking care of messages that might be missed due to this.</p>
<p>One is setting up Gmail to POP your messages from Buckeye Mail, per http://8help.osu.edu/4070.html</p>
<p>Another is to set up an Automatic Reply in Buckeye Mail basically saying &#8220;I don&#8217;t use this address, make sure to mail me at name.##@osu.edu (or even Gmail directly if you prefer).</p>
<p>Another is to setup Inbox Rules that automatically forward or redirect all incoming mail to another address, per http://8help.osu.edu/4093.html</p>
<p>The warnings for this are spelled out in the article &#8211; but because of your blog post, I just want to make sure you&#8217;re aware that messages *forwarded* int his manner will appear &#8220;From&#8221; your Buckeye Mail address &#8211; NOT the original sender, so you won&#8217;t be able to just hit  This option behaves just like hitting forward on a message from an e-mail client.  The Subject is also appended with &#8220;FW: &#8221;</p>
<p>If you choose to Redirect instead of Forward, there are other issues &#8211; the original sender and subject are preserved, so that you can hit reply and have it go back to the sender &#8230; BUT&#8230; if there were other recipients on the message (other To or Cc addresses), those are NOT preserved &#8211; so hitting reply-all would only reach the original sender &#8211; you won&#8217;t be aware of other people who may have been a part of the conversation.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a lot to digest, so hopefully it all makes sense &#8211; let me know if you have any questions.</p>
<p>&#8211;<br />
Max Treboni<br />
IT Service Desk, OSU Office of Information Technology<br />
Request forms and knowledge base articles are available on the web at http://8help.osu.edu<br />
Service hours are available on the web at http://8help.osu.edu/1691.html</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Forwarding BuckeyeMail</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 05:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kyle Tolle</dc:creator>
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Kyle Tolle reading &#8216;Forwarding BuckeyeMail&#8217;

UPDATE:
Please see my &#8216;Update on OSU Email&#8216; post for the feedback I got on this post and what I learned about how the BuckeyeMail system works. Fixing the forwarding is way easier.
Ohio State is rolling out it&#8217;s new BuckeyeMail service. They&#8217;re releasing it in phases, and I only [...]]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://blog.kyletolle.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/kyle-tolle-forwarding-buckeyemail.mp3"></a><a href="http://blog.kyletolle.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/kyle-tolle-forwarding-buckeyemail.mp3">Kyle Tolle reading &#8216;Forwarding BuckeyeMail&#8217;</a></p>
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<h1>UPDATE:</h1>
<p>Please see my &#8216;<a href="http://blog.kyletolle.com/update-on-osu-email/" target="_self">Update on OSU Email</a>&#8216; post for the feedback I got on this post and what I learned about how the BuckeyeMail system works. Fixing the forwarding is way easier.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ohio State is rolling out it&#8217;s new BuckeyeMail service. They&#8217;re releasing it in phases, and I only just got the chance to sign up for it.  Annoyingly, I had to muck around with resetting the password and wait several days for my account to unlock (from trying what should have been the correct password too much).</p>
<p>When I finally logged in today, I found that I had missed several days of emails because the @osu.edu address now forwards to the @buckeyemail.osu.edu address, which I couldn&#8217;t log in to.</p>
<p>For the webmail system, there was a web form you could fill out to forward your email to another account. The settings are not migrated from webmail to BuckeyeMail, however. You&#8217;re going to have to set it up on your own again.  It&#8217;s not overly hard to find this or set it up, but there is no <a href="http://8help.osu.edu/3952.html" target="_blank">8Help BuckeyeMail FAQ</a> for this. I decided to write this tutorial to show you how to set up BuckeyeMail to forward to another email account (like Gmail).</p>
<p>This is not the same as <a href="http://8help.osu.edu/4070.html" target="_blank">setting Gmail up for POP access</a>, which 8Help does have an article on. Forwarding the email allows you to get it instantly in Gmail instead of waiting for Gmail to check the BuckeyeMail servers for new mail. It&#8217;s my preferred method. Now, on to the tutorial!</p>
<h2>1) Go to &#8220;Options&#8221;, in the upper right hand corner of the page.</h2>
<p><a href="http://blog.kyletolle.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/1-options.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-500" title="1-options" src="http://blog.kyletolle.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/1-options.jpg" alt="1-options" width="960" height="186" /></a></p>
<h2>2) Go to &#8220;Organize E-Mail&#8221; in the left side menu.</h2>
<p><a href="http://blog.kyletolle.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/2-organizeemail.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-501" title="2-organizeemail" src="http://blog.kyletolle.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/2-organizeemail.jpg" alt="2-organizeemail" width="642" height="323" /></a></p>
<h2>3) Under the default &#8220;Inbox Rules&#8221; tab, click the &#8220;New&#8221; button.</h2>
<p><a href="http://blog.kyletolle.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/3-newrule.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-502" title="3-newrule" src="http://blog.kyletolle.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/3-newrule.jpg" alt="3-newrule" width="863" height="297" /></a></p>
<h2>4) In the new window, select &#8220;[Apply to all messages]&#8221; in the first dropdown.</h2>
<p><a href="http://blog.kyletolle.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/4-applytoallmessages.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-503" title="4-applytoallmessages" src="http://blog.kyletolle.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/4-applytoallmessages.jpg" alt="4-applytoallmessages" width="342" height="291" /></a></p>
<h2>5) Select &#8220;Forward the message to&#8230;&#8221; in the second dropdown.</h2>
<p><a href="http://blog.kyletolle.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/5-forwardthemessageto.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-504" title="5-forwardthemessageto" src="http://blog.kyletolle.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/5-forwardthemessageto.jpg" alt="5-forwardthemessageto" width="329" height="298" /></a></p>
<h2>6) A new popup appears. Type the email address to forward to in the &#8220;Message Recipients&#8221;, &#8220;To&#8212;-&gt;&#8221; field. Click &#8220;Ok&#8221;.</h2>
<p><a href="http://blog.kyletolle.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/6-enterforwardingaddress.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-505" title="6-enterforwardingaddress" src="http://blog.kyletolle.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/6-enterforwardingaddress.jpg" alt="6-enterforwardingaddress" width="1007" height="695" /></a></p>
<h2>7) The email address is turned blue and underlined. Just click &#8220;Ok&#8221; again.</h2>
<p><a href="http://blog.kyletolle.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/7-forwardingemailinserted.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-506" title="7-forwardingemailinserted" src="http://blog.kyletolle.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/7-forwardingemailinserted.jpg" alt="7-forwardingemailinserted" width="1006" height="730" /></a></p>
<h2>8) The popup closes and you&#8217;re brought back to the previous window. Click &#8220;Save&#8221; to save the rule.</h2>
<p><a href="http://blog.kyletolle.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/8-clicktosave.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-507" title="8-clicktosave" src="http://blog.kyletolle.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/8-clicktosave.jpg" alt="8-clicktosave" width="960" height="630" /></a></p>
<h2>9) The rule is saved and now all your email is forwarded to the address you supplied!</h2>
<p>Now you&#8217;re ready to go about your normal business. Gmail beats Microsoft&#8217;s offering anyway.</p>
<p>Hope you enjoyed this tutorial!  Please leave me feedback on whether you were able to follow these steps, if you encountered any problems along the way, or you just love me!</p>
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		<title>Ohio State University is Obsessed with Swine Flu</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 19:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kyle Tolle</dc:creator>
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A few days ago, OSU sent out three emails to every one about someone maybe having swine flu on campus.  New emails have been consistently showing up in my inbox since then.  They&#8217;re basically updates any time someone new is either suspected [...]]]></description>
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<p>A few days ago, OSU sent out three emails to every one about someone maybe having swine flu on campus.  New emails have been consistently showing up in my inbox since then.  They&#8217;re basically updates any time someone new is either suspected to have it, probably has it, or definitely has it.</p>
<p><strong>I&#8217;m tired of these emails.</strong></p>
<p>Why should I get an email every time someone gets sick?  Yes, I know how to cough into my sleeve so as to avoid getting myself and others sick.  I know to stay away from someone sick.  I&#8217;m not stupid.  These emails make me feel that OSU believes the students have no common sense.  Such advice as &#8220;Make sure to wash your hands&#8221; doesn&#8217;t really add anything to my knowledgebase&#8230;</p>
<p>Today, after getting what has to be the 4th or 5th email regarding Swine Flu from OSU, I decided to reply.</p>
<blockquote><p>Do you send out an email for every person who gets the flu each year? No. So why is this any different?  I really don&#8217;t want to get an email 3x a day telling me about someone else getting sick because they were either in the wrong place, or didn&#8217;t follow common sense about health and wellness.  Will you soon be sending out messages when someone has the sniffles?</p></blockquote>
<p>These emails are sent from the Emergency Management email address of OSU.  I have no idea if the email address is monitored, so it&#8217;s likely the email didn&#8217;t ever reach anyone. But it still felt good to send.  Is someone getting sick with the flu honestly occasion to break out the Emergency Management system? Their use of the &#8220;H1N1 flu&#8221; makes things sound much more dire, because it&#8217;s cryptic and therefore SCARY!  I really wish they would have sent an email last winter when someone slipped on ice and hurt themselves so they could tell me to be careful because ice is slippery and falling down means you could hurt something. <em>I couldn&#8217;t have guessed that myself.</em></p>
<p>What are your thoughts?  I&#8217;m particularly interested in hearing from Ohio State students who have received these same emails. Anyone else who has been inundated with the swine flu media barrage is welcome to comment!  Shoot, even if you&#8217;ve not even heard about the swine flu, you can say so!  I have honestly not heard that much about it, mainly because I don&#8217;t watch the news, but the little I have heard is really annoying. Scare tactics for the lose.  Can we punch the government for inciting a riot over this illness?!</p>
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